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Comes out. >> in another area of intelligence, the house intel chair adam schiff has said he's considering enforcement action against barr for refusing to hand over the unredacted report, for refusing to give the underlying intel materials to his committee. there's another angle here. >> a number of other angles. the reality this is all political from everyone's perspective. schiff, is genuinely angry about this and has been talking about how to proceed. this comes as democrats are trying to pressure schiff, nadler, other leading democrats towards impeachment or hearings in that direction. of ...

Here's a guy talking in spy language. our friend in the embassy. we know two he s. by the way, who is he kidding, our friend in the embassy? he's passing on this information. he's going to be in the barrel. it's so, you can't predict the future unless you know something ability the future. >> exactly. >> he knew about the hacks. >> he's not kidding anybody. so the message, if there is ever a jury trial will be c'mon, use your common does jerome corsi look like the kind of person who could divine these hacked e-mails will come from podesta of all people? and so again, common sense, forensic eve...

Grave injustice, and i think unfortunately in my line of work, which is white collar criminal defense, it happens more often than you think that the government gets things wrong. i think it highlights the bigger difficulty that prosecutors are having in the russia investigation at large. this isn't part of the mueller probe. this is in the d.c. federal court system, but it does have to do with sort of russia at large. and prosecuting these types of sort of spy cases are very ambiguous. they owned up, fessed up to the fact they made a mistake when they read these text messages. it was clearly a...

The fbi began to ask for assistance from this third party, this informant. so he's not a spy. he's someone who was talking to the trump campaign and was willing to give information to the fbi. we can't forget -- >> but just for the layman like me here, juliette, quickly if you will, what's the difference between a spy and an informant? >> well, informants are happening in every case. in other words, if you have a conspiracy, right, and someone comes forward and says -- comes to the fbi or the fbi is worried about the conspiracy and discusses with this person, this informant, it's basically you...