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According to the wall street journals, best-selling author, that is not a coincidence, phrase is removed. she says, because if democrats talk too many about bribery, they could end up ensnaring joe and hunter biden. she is also the author of resistance at all costs, how trump voters are breaking america. she joins us now. two articles of impeachment, don t mention quid quo pro, what do you mean? brian, it was funny, we saw the articles of impeachment, we at the editorial board called it, honey, we shrunk the impeachment. because listen, for months now, we ve been listening to extortion, quid quo pro, adam schiff spent 6 weeks lecturing on proper definition of bribery, which was something removed from all statutes or history of the country, but the way they had to define it in order to pack it into what they say donald trump did. suddenly it disappears and this is because someone in the democratic party realized, if you expand the definition the ....
They have cooked up. hilton also called bolton. has been called to testify before house committees. whether he shows up and what he knows is still up in the air. very exciting. you are going to do a fantastic job. two of the best, pamela brown who is one of the reporters who don t get much sleep these days or weekends off. and jeffrey toobin, the hardest working man in law and politics. jeff, of all the unanswered questions what really do you think is the most pressing? i think it s by far what did the president know and when did he know it? it s very interesting to know about what rudy giuliani did, but, you know, whether the president himself pressured the president of ukraine to investigate his political opponents, that s the key issue. it s even more important than the quid quo pro issue. ....
no quid quo pro. reporter: trump says the transcript is an exact replica of the conversation, though we learned this week that the national security official s top security expert who was on the phone call disputed that claim. trump also says he was simply asking ukraine to investigate corruption in their country. if that s the case, then why was the transcript initially hidden on a highly classified server? another unknown, how far did rudy giuliani go in his talks with the ukrainians. giuliani had been pressuring them for months to look into the 2016 election conspiracy theory and into the bidens. did you ask the ukraine to investigate joe biden? no, i asked the ukrainians to investigate there was interference in the election for the benefit of hillary clinton. you never asked anything about hunter biden or joe biden? the only thing i asked about ....
Okay. there was no quid quo pro. well, there was but it doesn t matter because kelly ann said this morning the ukraine got the aid anyway. that s a lot of shifting ground. if you re asking the members of the house and senate to state their political careers on a defense, they better stand up over time. so far that hasn t been the case. it also seems from a messaging standpoint, the press secretary, there are no briefings anymore. i guess on fox news and stuff. but it doesn t seem like there s a lot of people actuallying managing this. the hill s all over the place. the president is all over the place. the one thing that they do have going for them and it s a little counterintuitive is their campaign. their campaign can do this through paid advertising. think about where bill clinton was. he was never running for anything again. he couldn t go out and spend $200 million pushing some false narrative. i agree with paul. the ad is the first time i ve ....
About that. reporter: as a leader on u.s./ukraine policy he s emerged as a player in the investigation. he was in the ukraine. he talked to president zelenski. i m chairman of the senate foreign relss committee. i ve made six trips to ukraine. reporter: johnson attended the ukrainian president s inauguration with five other representatives including gordon sondland, ambassador to the eu. two months later was the infamous call to the president where according to the transcript he asked zelenski to look into the bidens. i put in a call to find out what s happened because he was involved. he was part of the delegation for the inauguration. that s when he was talking about something potentially in the works. if ukraine does something, the funding will be released. reporter: in other words what democrats now allege was a quid quo pro. ....