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Would then respond with artillery and missiles across the demilitarized zone. that is the most likely option other than a general war on the korean peninsula. >> ken, before we let yyou get out of here, going back to the initial assessment from the intelligence community, how many agencies are we talking here and with what degree of certainty? >> craig, we don't have that specificity. those are very good questions you're asking, but the "washington post" has reported that the defense intelligence agency, which is the pentagon intelligence arm that focuses on military capability, has made this ...

That is not a feasible option. there may be other options out there that we don't know about yet. but that one isn't feasible. and from the north korean perspective and the way they negotiate is that they are very aggressive in theaeir goern yap negotiations. so when you threaten north korea, you increase the likely head that they will take some kinds of preemptive action that initiates war. he wi we don't want to stumble into a war on miscalculation. >> stand by for me. i want to bring in peter alexander now who is in bridgewater, new jersey where of course the president is spending some time...

Our relationship with north korea now moving forward? >> it means we'll move into a period ever mutual deterrence. that is to say we're going to have to accept the fact thateve. that is to say we're going to have to accept the fact that if their capability stands, that in the event of war on the korean peninsula, the united states home land is not safe. and therefore this makes deterrence more complicated. can tdeterrence work? sure. it worked in the cold war. but the question then was would they trade hamburg for new york. because if we defended against the soviet attack in germany and they u...

It's a very powerful tool that has been aproved. >> it seems prattthe president' strategy is to try -- be more aggressive and take steps to convince the north korean regime to step back. >> that's exactly right and i think that's what the president should be doing. i'm glad he's talking to his counter part. >> when you say he doesn't have a strategy, that seems to be a strategy. >> i'm saying a diplomatic strategy. i certainly agree talking to china is a very big part of it. our goal in korea is to have a stable nonnuclear korean peninsula. that can only be accomplished with the help of china ...