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Deborah ramirez, has acknowledged the gaps in her own memory of the incident that she describes. how credible do you think she is? >> i believe that she is very credible. she's come forward to tell her story with sufficient detail that it merits investigation, and i believe dr. blasey ford. i believe the survivor. the question is why are they blocking an investigation? what do they have to hide? why are they rushing to judgment and why are they preventing us from seeing millions of pages of documents that could bear on judge kavanaugh's credibility? the stain and the cloud will be not just on ...

>> more than a staff interview is required. it has to be a full, fair fbi investigation. by the way, reopening investigations is done routinely. since june of this year ten background investigations have been reopened for judicial nominees before our committee. so it is entirely routine for the fbi to go back, do more interviews, conduct an investigation. that's what is needed here, not a staff interview. >> senator blumenthal, i know you got to run and vote, but thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. all right. just ahead we are learning more about rod rosenstein's state of mind just ...

Publically or privately via staff interview, open or closed. he said he would reach back out to her today and continue their own staff level investigation to talk to people who were a part of the incident. when i asked them directly whether or not you would agree to delay the hearing and reopen, call for reopening the fbi background check as dr. ford has demanded, he would not say that. he said we will focus on the judiciary committee and getting her to testify. >> where i'm focussed right now is doing everything that we can to make dr. ford comfortable with coming before our committee either ...

And his style of working. and that could be interesting to the staff. the fact it was a staff interview is to me more interesting that the members didn't schedule her or bring her to washington, but rather, i assume, both majority and minority staff were there. we don't know that yet though. >> as you look ahead in this investigation, the russian investigation, what should be, we be watching for in the weeks and months ahead? >> well, we should be watch for the longevity of the investigation as one of your earlier segments explored. a lot of people on the democratic side are concerned it's goi...

Wikileaks now being leaked, which he calls ironic, and now this is raising serious concerns from former directors of u.s. intelligence agencies. >> thank you for the reporting from washington. in light of all this, the senate judiciary committee wants to know more about that and want it to happen in public. let's go to manu on capitol hill. >> democrats in particular have been pushing to bring down trump jr. to a public hearing after the september private interview in which he was asked, we are told, by multiple sources about these exchanges. he did disclose these exchanges but we are not gett...