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you want to know the truth. the enemy of the state is him and the group that control him. the fbi and the justice department have become vicious monsters controlled by radical left scoundrels, lawyers and media who tell him what to do. >> cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny is live for us this pittsburgh. i want to ask you about one moment over the weekend about the former president's rally and it was very unusual. cynthia hughes who runs a support group for january 6th participants spoke, she was given this platform to speak at trump's rally and was telling the stor...

straight ahead we'll get a reality check on where all this goes. we're also live in tulsa where the police revealed a gunman who shot four people bought his gun just four hours beforehand. in uvalde, texas, as more and more kids are being laid to rest today, a state senator revealing the officer in charge never got word that children were calling 911, basically calling for help. mike memoli is covering the white house, blaine alexander is in tulsa, oklahoma, thompson is in uvalde, texas and we're joined by security analyst clint watts, former head of the counterterrorist division...

Published. >> so just when i'm walking on the stage a highly respected judge in virginia made statements. it says "the wall street journal," says judge questions mueller's authority to prosecute manafort. judge ts ellis who is really something very special i hear from many standpoints, he's a respected person. >> in his opinion filed yesterday, judge ellis, a reagan appointee said it was clear that bob mueller followed the money from pro-russian officials to manafort. the judge added no interpretive gymnastics are necessary to find it falls within the authority given by special counsel by the ...

The political stage a? and i think it would be pretty eye-opening for them once they got out in. >> do you think they get the trump connection with the zeitgei zeitgeist? that's his great strength. he whistles into the exact mood of the country at the exact moment and says what's appropriate to that moment and how he keeps people interested in him. i think that is a talent of a sort. what do you think? >> oh, sure. sure thing. oprah winfrey obviously would come in with enormous advantages. >> people like her. >> the money -- >> that's a start. >> people like her, the money advantage. she has a...

Would add one other thing. the biggest stage a vice presidential candidate is in is in their debate. he's going to be up against joe biden. pawlenty was not a strong campaigner in the nomination fight. think in particular about the two republican debates he took part in. he was disastrously bad in those debates. the romney people recognize one of the great question marks is can he hold his own against joe biden? you have to at least come to a draw if not win that debate. i don't think there's a lot of confidence around tim pawlenty in that area. thank you both very much for joining me tonight....