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They did get rid of him the next day. how do you think this has shaken out since then? >> first off, i'm only the more awake by default, i want to make that clear. you know, i thought they had to do something by the end of the day. i thought the president was smart to do it the way he did. this was really from the minute they began the stage craft of this to the rose garden statement which i think was his most presidential moment since he was in office, the president handled it well. if petraeus was not waiting in the wings to take over, i think he would have more problems. having petraeus the...

They're working 24 hours a day. >> well, that wasn't the speech. but, anyway, eric, i'm sure you remember that speech from back post-9/11 when the president went out. a different strategy this time. president obama is going to speech from the oval office, not on location down in the gulf. what in terms of sort of stage craft and delivery do you think he needs to focus on? >> well, i think he needs to focus on what chuck todd was talking about earlier. what he will do to make sure we drive towards a solution and what we will do to clean up this mess and that's not a near term thing, but a long-...

City "the new york times"? >> yeah. . and the question is when he gets down there today and then speaks to the nation on tuesday is that a big opportunity to do just that? >> it's a great opportunity. and it's an opportunity he needs to take if you have "the new york times" saying, what, people around this table have been saying over the past two, three weeks. and pointing out, chrystia freeland, it's not just about stage craft and it's not just

Times" editorial didn't really blast the obama administration but said a lot of what mika and i have been saying the past month. >> do you think they were copying you, joe? >> i think we have been saying and people that have been on this -- around this round table have been saying basically the same thing and it's caused a lot of frustration in the white house. but i think it's pretty obvious that it's not just about stage craft, but it certainly is letting people know that you're engaged and that you care and that you're compassionate and tying the reality and the perception together. >> yeah...

Process now. >> gregg: julie, thanks. >> "new york times" criticizing the response for the oil spill urging him to go beyond stage craft, that is their word, and show that he actively engaged in the crisis. they say americans will have more faith on leadership on other issues. is this a fair analysis of the situation. joining igs now democratic stwrat gist, kenny lee. alice is a if your spokesperson for the white house. good to see you both. the editorial page on "new york times" is a coach for obama -- in today's blunted, if not scathing editorial, i'm paraphrasing, they said the president ne...