>> very attentive. i testified in a stalker case, and there were people reading the newspaper. you didn't see that. >> no. the voluntary interview was harder. because you walk in and i think this is just what they do all the time, the first let's say 75 minutes, 60 minutes whatever it is, they go at you rapidly and they want to test whether or not you are going to be truthful and they are really asking you all these types of questions that for some of them hard for me to recall. >> but that they already knew the answer to. >> exactly. at one point they did tell me. there was one question they ...