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violence singling out ms-13 and detailing their gruesome crimes and making a case for stronger immigration policies and doubling down on his word animals. these are vicious killers and shouldn t be allowed into the country. the laws are horrible. the democrats are sticking up for ms-13. you heard nancy pelosi the other day trying to find all sorts of reasons why they should be able to stay. these are stone cold killers. vicious killers. and when you hear families like that and see families, these are incredible families where they lost their daughters in this case. yet other people in the room lost sons. this should never happen. jon: joining us now is the white house reporter at the associated press. the president is proposing a change to the way foreign aid is distributed to countries whose citizens illegally enter the united states. how would that work, jill? this is the plan the president floated yesterday. he was in long island talking about illegal immigration and ....
Going to turn his focus to his overseas travels that he has coming up. but this domestic priority is one of course that remains a huge challenge. but we are hearing from someone who is a critical vote in all of in, the democratic senator from west virginia joe manchin who is telling our own garrett hague that democrats aren t ready to go to alone quite yet on infrastructure. and one reason for that may be because even though these talks right now with the current republican group as you referenced seem to be really a stalling point, there is another group working on an infrastructure proposal also that includes gop senators who may want to meet with the president and the white house is signaling that they are open to that. so we may see those meetings in the coming days and weeks. but what it boils down to, they could ultimately decide that they will want to go the budget reconciliation route. this is something where we ve seen the time line shift so many times. originally it was memor ....
The sanctions in place in the long term. melissa: you don t think this is the last we re hearing in this negotiation, do you? absolutely not, no. you know i m not a big fan of the president but i think he actually sitting down with kim jong-un might get farther. i think they have some similar traits in their personalities and i think quite frankly if a deal is to be made that s when it is hammered out. not agreed to before. i think we re naive to think kim jong-un would come to the table and say i ll completely denuclearize north korea with american troops in south korea. he won t do that. he won t agree to that. melissa: she makes a bunch of good points. it s possible they re talking about what they are going to agree to. maybe they have to a stalling point. they don t necessarily have to have every detail before he goes in the sense he does tend to do better with people when he is in the room. what do you think? i think that s right and that some details could be ironed out b ....
The states that have that gold stripe, they have constitutional amendments that have outlawed gay marriage, but they also have civil unions. so you have a plausible pathway in the foreseeable tufuture to getting to gay marriage in those states. the red states where it s banned by constitutional amendment or banned by institute. and new mexico is great, because nothing at all has happened there. when you put that all together, i think if you put those striped states and turned them blue, the green states and turned them blue, you basically have the red state/blue state map we see every presidential election. you have the red state/blue state divide. i wonder if we talk about all the progress in gay marriage, but are we going to hit a stalling point, if you re in a blue state, you have gay marriage. if you have mississippi and arkansas, tough luck. is that what we re on course for at least for the foreseeable future? i think that that map, just like the presidential map, i ....