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as the cat in the caster oil. you had to have one going and one covering up. it was really an accelerated period. 6 and the dialogue of deterrence in those days is there was no escape for the enemy. if we go to war, they will suffer. and people did talk about winning a nuclear war in spite of the fact that the consequences would be so extreme as to make winning kind of a ludicrous term. i did know in those days that i and my crew members, all of the people that i just described, would follow orders. and if the president said "go" under the extremely tight constraints that a president...

a former white house negotiator for the new start treaty said he's pessimistic about the next round of talks between the u.s. and russia. speaking earlier today, he also rejected report that is budgetary concerns drove the obama administration's plans for maintaining the arsenal. this is a little over an hour. >> good morning, everyone. if you could find your seats, we're about to get started. i'm the director of the independent nongovernmental arms control situation and i want to welcome everyone to our annual 2012 meeting. i want to thank those of you watching online and cspan. and...