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>> right. if you're talking about it publicly. >> yes. >> because surely a lot of founders, ceos, have very strong believes about things right now, and daniel, they are not transferring it to the company and what the company stands for. >> yeah, this is a question that comes up a lot and i think a lot of ceos, they can sometimes be overeager to put their own personal views on the company. i think that's a mistake. i think that the -- if a company does take a stand it's got to come from the organization. it has to come from the desires or either the values or the performance needs of different ...

Comi coming, i can feel it reverberating in my kids already. and i think the lack of cynicism of young kids, the rawness and the degree to which they're hooked into this digital culture. basically you've got a digital world against and an log world. >> what do you think as someone who i think is a pretty deep thinker, the fair logical critique that there is a positive embrace of the youth of spokespersons as if it can't be replicated when certainly it can? >> are you asking is there another point of view among young people, is that your question? >> if it exists. >> of course it does. >> i mea...

What's happened in the last 7 to 10 days, they are setting up michael cohen to be the fall guy. michael cohen is going to say i never told the president, never talked to him. if that means i'm going to lose my license, it means i'm going to lose my license, et cetera, et cetera. that only wogoes so far for so long in bob mueller's investigation. as this case and mueller's investigation goes forward, i don't know him personally, but from what i have seen and the statements i have seen him make, i don't think he has the mettle to with stand it, and that could be a very, very bad thing for the ad...

Want to welcome maya wiley. maya, your view of this news, and did donald trump as a client help or hurt himself by weighing in this way? >> i'm going to agree with mr. avanatti. if i were sitting in mr. avanatti's seat, i would be doing the happy dance too. a nondisclosure agreement is a contract, two people got together, made an agreement on something of value, gave consideration, which in this case would be money in exchange for silence. and you're saying donald trump didn't know about it? so what's a the agreement? what's the contract? so the whole issue in addition to this the notion of wi...

About it, he probably would have continued to stay silent for the very reason that he will now regret, which is nothing makes sense anymore. >> right, and that he's revived it in an extraordinary way, that he didn't need to do. you're talking about how donald trump operates as a client, we know that his lead criminal defense attorney in the russia probe left allegedly over strains that he was following legal advice and legal strategy. and we know that donald trump has more attorneys working on silencing stormy daniels than he does on the russia probe. so the real question is how he deals with ...