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Constitutional law. and the supreme court precedent here is roe v. wade, meaning you should not disrupt that, and that's what texas just did. nancy northam is the president for the center of reproductive rights. it's good to have you on "prime t time." i'm going to jump the conversation because a first year law student would know that something that violates constitutional precedent is a problem. but here's your problem, is that they may take this case and they may be looking to change precedent. america is going to be woken up to how meaningless stare decisus is here because justices can chan...

This is an election year. >> are the dems able to stall the vote? >> what we are going to do is make sure we uphold the constitution. i think there is bipartisan consensus that roe v. wade is the law of the land. if you nominate a judge to the supreme court who is not going to uphold roe v. wade that should trigger overwhelmingly bipartisan opposition. we are going to fight for the constitution and make sure we are doing our level best. >> tom, that's -- >> we need more democrats, no doubt about it. >> i get that's your goal. you're running the dnc, but that's how elections have consequences. ...

We both know, steve, after this conversation karine will get beat up, i'm going to get beat up because people will say i'm in favor of life and you want to kill babies which is both not fair because you don't know where we are personally, you know what we are arguing professionally and me as a journalist encouraging both sides but the question is so important, steve, if you just leave it down to the will of people, where can you have access to reproductive rights and where can't you, think about what that means for people's lives. don't be insensitive to that. >> i understand that. it's so imp...

>> are the dems able to stall the vote? >> what we are going to do is make sure we uphold the constitution. i think there is bipartisan consensus that roe v. wade is the law of the land. if you nominate a judge to the supreme court who is not going to uphold roe v. wade that should trigger overwhelmingly bipartisan opposition. we are going to fight for the constitution and make sure we are doing our level best. >> tom, that's -- >> we need more democrats, no doubt about it. >> i get that's your goal. you're running the dnc, but that's how elections have consequences. we just saw with the union...

Up because people will say i'm in favor of life and you want to kill babies which is both not fair because you don't know where we are personally, you know what we are arguing professionally and me as a journalist encouraging both sides but the question is so important, steve, if you just leave it down to the will of people, where can you have access to reproductive rights and where can't you, think about what that means for people's lives. don't be incensensitive to that >> i understand that. it's so important that we can't possibly leave it up to five unelected justices to make the decision....