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Obviously, defense. and because these are long-term projects, those defense cuts will be felt well into 2013, into 2014. what's doing well? health care is doing well. we're living longer. living until 100 years old. that's a positive. it's not a crisis. it's a positive. so we are in need of 1 million nurses, health care professionals in the coming years. technology doing very well. a lot of start-up technology. innovation going well. that's a positive. manufacturing coming back a bit as well. the auto sector. however, everything can change in a nanosecond. yes, it's resilient. i agree with the...

What's the economy doing well? what's it not doing as well? and what will we see over the next four years? >> we are moving at a slow pace. at this point in the recovery, you would expect faster growth, which we are not going. if we go over the cliff, we will go into recession. a couple of industries will feel the hurt more so than others. obviously, defense. and because these are long-term projects, those defense cuts will be felt well into 2013, into 2014. what's doing well? health care is doing well. we're living longer. living until 100 years old. that's a positive. it's not a crisis. it's...

Into 2014. what's doing well? health care is doing well. we're living longer. living until 100 years old. that's a positive. it's not a crisis. it's a positive. so we are in need of 1 million nurses, health care professionals in the coming years. technology doing very well. a lot of start-up technology. innovation going well. that's a positive. manufacturing coming back a bit as well. the auto sector. however, everything can change in a nanosecond. yes, it's resilient. i agree with the secretary. however, very, very fragile. particularly with this fiscal cliff. >> well, we haven't talked about...