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Indictment in georgia, a state charge, by fulton county district attorney who said their team is ready to go to give more information, this is about a phone call, the former president had with athens burger, she has not indicted yet, she expects something to happen before september. back here in washington d.c., the former president has been summoned to appear in federal court in washington on thursday, just two days, so we'll see what that turns out to be, that will be a heavy police presence on thursday when he makes his appearance, laura. >> laura: david, thank you. reaction, vivec your vie...

You and i are discussing? >> well, she seems very, very likely to indict. if she does, that could factor into doj's calculation. there's a longstanding policy at doj that if conduct has been charged elsewhere, it doesn't mean you cannot charge it, but it is something you should consider in deciding whether it's necessary to bring a second charge that covers largely the same subject matter. >> and one wonders if that is then in turn putting pressure on jack smith to hustle if he's going to do anything relative to january 6th. >> lots of moving parts here. and, by the way, if jack smith charges ...

Said in the past was wrong. i think what he is going to say is that he meant legitimately and it died because he thinks all those indictment are not correct. and i thinks in his mind in there are people around him that are saying look, once again like that you could pardon yourself. even though at least one of the indictments is a state charge but he's going to try and find a way to convince new york that he can be, that he can pardon himself. you know, there is going to be, we've got, i can't even count how many months we have left in this campaign, but at least in the primary season, this wi...

What's your assessment of how the other candidates, the haleys, scotts, desantises, and desantis has gone quiet, how are they handling it? >> they don't want to offend the trump case. as you say, trump base hasn't abandoned him over the state charge in new york over hush money. i think they are trying to see if trump ultimately implodes on his own, rather than try to take him down. they've shifted their message the last few days. rather than emphasizing this is an unfair prosecution against him, as many did at the start, it is, "look, this is a serious matter. it is important to protect classi...

Distinguished honors. where? he was federally indicted for a state charge and now a federal charge. i have to agree with congresswoman dean, it is a very very well written one. and it is an easy indictment to read. i mean, anyone can read it. you don't need to be a lawyer. it tells a story. and the story is so damning. forgetting about donald trump, it is damning to america. something else that congresswoman dean brought up about donald trump and in the indictment, five documents, that is also -- we go back to 99. you know him a long time. that is only the 500 documents that they know of. i ha...