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>> absolutely not. >> so, a glimpse there into the possible defense of pastor steven lee. also overnight, former doj official, jeffrey clark turned himself in. he's charged as well in this rico indictment. as jessica was reporting, we look ahead to monday to the former chief of staff of the former president, mark meadows, as he tries to get his case moved from georgia and a state courthouse to a federal courthouse. >> knocking on the door to spread religion is one thing. intimidating election workers, that's the allegation, is another. nick valencia and jessica, thank you very much. he's the...

Commissioners hope to renew it for another six years to keep growing the county.

>> okay. okay. >> all right. >> february 18th, judge. >> thank you. all right. is there anything else we need to put on the record? >> no, your honor. thank you. >> all right. okay, thank you, counsel. >> love you, kim. >> love you. >> what you have just seen in that state courthouse in hennepin county, minnesota, is the jury returning a unanimous verdict of guilty on both

You should say so and so, that guy is out of his mind. when you have elected judges, you get a lot more random folks on the bench. you get good jurists but interesting folks. was this judge someone you would likely find at the supreme court house? no. but if s he someone you might see a state courthouse or municipal courthouse on a random tuesday? absolutely. these judges are out there. >> look, i -- one of the things that i can't explain in our democracy how you can have a judge face the voters. i don't get it, but that's me. it doesn't make any sense. i don't know how you can expect a judge ...

Meeting's been set up or what these two former governors might discuss. another former republican governor's make the rounds oh, week after setting a 2012 explore tory committee. tim pawlenty was on "morning joe" this morning and was asked, why no one knows his name. >> don't take these early polls too seriously. your name and i.d. will be close to 100% by the end anyhow. >> remember roy moore who made headlines after he was kicked out of office for refusing to remove a monument of the ten command wants from a state courthouse? well, he was the latest contender in the ever-expanding crowd fo...