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Meaning everybody's premiums go up and the system gets turned over. that's the problem with graham-cassidy. >> harris: if that's the case, why were democrats against the risk pools? i hear you using almost the same terminology. guy? >> well, i would just respond -- first of all, hospital and er visits went up under obamacare. we were told they'd go down. the opposite was true. it's been another dishonest or inaccurate sales job of obamacare. where do you get the 70 million number? the number on the exchanges is way lower than anyone had anticipated in the obama administration. it's at 10 milli...

Important. the medicaid numbers in and of themselves are staggering. to ron's piece about the rural aspect of all of this, there are nuances and differences between rural medicaid health care and urban health care. lots of people look into this health care policy experts have done studies and there are subtle differences between the two but nonetheless very important. rural patients to be older and sicker and hospitals are typically there in rural areas not for profit. you don't have that much margin for error and rethey rely on public funding. >> could those differences make an argument for s...

The whip leadership, the republican leadership, meeting behind closed doors trying to come up with a strategy to get people to vote for this latest compromise, president trump said that it's not a final version of the bill. and that sort of threw a monkey wrench and set them back yet again. we should point out though whip skalease and speaker ryan said they were going to -- said they were going to -- those with preexisting conditions would have coverage, would have better coverage, that is sharply in dispute. many critics say a patchwork state by state coverage for those with preexisting condi...

Why so few women at this moment to celebrate this enormous victory? >> well, i guess part of it is also because of the fears. you know, tahrir square, like recently there's been a law in the past week -- there's many new developments. it wasn't just the women's march. there was also a protest, i was in front of -- there was a protest for the ousting of the yemeni president. there was a march for marchers of alexandria. there's a lot of side protests in front of the egyptian and state television building. there was a huge protest today of cops protesting state coverage of cops in egypt. that ha...