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Wants to keep that job. he s headed back to ukraine tomorrow. he s not looking to really get into a place where he becomes a celebrity of this whole impeachment inquiry. he wants to go back to the job. the question is that he could be one of the key people here because he was one of the folks who picked up on the fact that there may be a quid pro quo. he was told that he was wrong, that there was not a quid pro quo. what we re going to learn today is why he even thought that in the first place. as i understand it, manu, he is not coming with those state department documents, that the state department has blocked many witnesses from bringing with them. yes. this is expected to go all day long. three committees, along with staff, will interview this witness. democrats will have a chance, hour to question, republicans will have an hour to question, ....
Alone. you know, sara, we haven t heard any official reaction from the trump team yet, have we? no, we haven t heard any official reaction. we ve asked, and donald trump is sort of in a he weird position when it comes to leaks at this point in his tenure. and wikileaks in particular. and wikileaks in particular. i think he s been critical in the past about some of this information leaking out, some of those confidential state department documents, but he s been on the campaign trail in recent months saying, i love wikileaks, i love we can i leaks. when it comes to the recent leaks around john podesta, hillary clinton s campaign chief s e-mails, he has essentially all but said the means justified the ends and that hacking situation. so, i think people will be watching very closely to see how donald trump walks the line on this particular issue. i don t want to try to guess what exactly he s going to say because and if julian assange comes back, he said that if chelsea mannin ....
Celebrating now. they just tweeted out victory exclamation point. it is an interesting test for wikileaks. let s just remind oir viewers of the association here. wikileaks of course founded by julian assange, and chelsea manning was to some degree really their greatest source ever. put them on the map. they had done some releases before, but the documents that manning stole from the u.s. military gave and then were released via wikileaks were just this massive trove as we know, essentially created wikileaks as this kind of global force as it were, revealing these secrets. so, he is indellably tied to julian assange. if obama grants clemency, assange will agree to clemency despite constitutional it he has been hold up in london to a steroid extradition to sweden. he is facing allegations there of sexual assault by two women. ....
Public critical documents that are classified and secret and put the u.s. at risk at the end of the day. there has to be serious consequences for that. and if at the end of the day you think you can do that and then have your sentence commuted, i m not sure that we send the right message. the argument that i ve heard from some, some critics already, senator, is that what the president has done in commuting chelsea manning s sentence is in effect to send a message to others in the u.s. intelligence community, the u.s. military, go ahead and do what she did and down the road you probably will get a more lenient sentence. that s the argument that will encourage more of these kinds of leaks to wikileaks. i m sure you ve heard that concern as well. well, i ve heard that and other arguments in the past. and it is something that is a legitimate, i think, valid argument. the reason at the end of the day that there are consequence, ....
The reason he has given repeatedly, he feared if i go there to face these allegations, that s really a an attempt for the u.s. to then extradite me from there back to the u.s. for releasing these documents. but five days ago he said, listen, you grant clemency, i will come to the u.s. i will face extradition and, of course, face charges for his involvement in this. the question now is does julian assange keep that promise? of course there s no connection we re not trying to make any connection between that assange demand and the fact the obama administration decided to do this, but the fact is they have done it. five days ago julian assange promised to come here to the u.s. we ll see if he follows through on that promise. and imagine if he does, you will have, i don t know if you want to call it the trial of a century, but you will have quite a legal proceeding here with julian assange, particularly as barbara mentioned, wikileaks involvement in russian hacking and the u.s. electi ....