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Ago. when you look at some of the laws that are being passed at the state legislative level. and when that's all done against the backdrop of large numbers of republicans having been convinced wrongly that there was something fishy about the last election, we've got a problem. >> no kidding that we have a problem. now one step sideways to process here. the former president said they're one of the major parties has a problem. the real problem is there are only two party, right? you really have the democrats and the republicans, or whatever you want to call them right now. i just want to keep th...

Lead has been cut in half. we are told the last county was just counted. so we're going to have to see when they're ready to say, okay, all votes are in and we'll look at that level. may well happen on our watch. we'll keep you going, no rush. we're going to talk about what the implications are if this does go that way, what does it mean, what does it not mean? another big night in virginia. all 140 seats in the state senate and house of delegates are up. imagine that, your entire state government is up. democrats are trying to pull off a big feat, something they haven't done in a quarter cent...

Of them. but that's harry enten's stuff. he handles all of that for me. you're talking about a gain that's going to be over 400 state legislative seats for democrats. i'll tell you one of the untold stories, asked any democratic strategist, for the obama presidency was the gains republicans mate at the state legislative level. in 2010, they gave away 1,000 state legislative seats in those two elections. which means policy comes out of there. as you point out, redistricting and line drawing comes out of there. future stars for the party come out of there, incubators for policy, personalities, f...

Anything to sneeze at. it was a big deal. compared to a presidential year, not that close. >> what are about mid-terms that stalled presidencies? >> these numbers are important. they are not as big on as presidential years, but they have huge impact. this is bill clinton's first mid-term. house and senate flip and bill clinton brings in a differently set of strategist and moves to the middle third way. triangulation and gets reelected in 1996. 2010, this is an election in which gloria mentioned earlier. you have massive losses at the house, gubernatorial, state senate and state legislative lev...

You did partner with the guy politically. >> not just leaving the prom date you weren't happy with -- >> nobody does that. that is worse than i can imagine. >> exactly. tweets just earlier in the day, saying this guy is wonderful. now saying he's not. but other problem is this, every republican out there, every other tweet that trump sends, seeing this now. he's not going to have my back. i didn't believe it until i saw what was happening on state legislative level. that's where it's worrisome for republicans. if you see a state legislature flip in off-year election and if that level of enthus...