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California, and you want to look at the entire tax plan. when you look at it overall, you're going to have a tax-cut going forward. and if you set out to end loopholes and make a fair -- you are not going to do it to different for every state. so is it fair that one state subsidizes another state? because what happens in california, new york at, when you have a liberal government, they raise the taxes. they say have another state pay for it because we can deduct it. but when we look at the deductions we are giving, it will make us more competitive and look at it overall. >> shannon: so how do ...

Like 15-1. it is extremely expensive. it is like $13,000 a student. 20% higher than the k-12 national average. this is a big deal in terms of the expense of going universal. but the -- thing i would argue is the most for piece about it is it is one of the country's biggest school choice programs. it is a state pay and parent chosen and mixed delivery system with sort of private community based providers. and -- districts competing against one another. and anything in sort -- expansion, like for a focus on low-income kids, where i think it should be, if you are not delivering this in a way that...

from the cnn world headquarters in atlanta, this is your cnn saturday morning for this december 3rd. i'm t.j. holmes. we have got a lot ahead for you this hour. we are standing by for herman cain, waiting for him to talk about the future of his campaign. that announcement would come at any time. he's battling, as you know, the latest allegations that he had a 13-year affair. also, former penn state football coach squarery sandusky is giving his side of the story. he says he never had sexual contact with young boys. but you'll hear from him in his own words. we're telling new this h...

Protests at the capital or the executive residence but doing it outside of people's homes show how extreme money from other states are going to drive they recall. >> you get to the bottom line and you take the emotion out of it we watched you take on unions and collective bargaining, all you asked is state employees, they pay 12.6% of their healthcare premiums and people in the private sectors many times play twice that and you asked them to contribute 5.8% toward their pension. previously they paid nothing. very standard operating procedure. >> it's simple. not only matching, if he are lucky ...

Protests at the capital or the executive residence but doing it outside of people's homes show how extreme money from other states are going to drive they recall. >> you get to the bottom line and you take the emotion out of it we watched you take on unions and collective bargaining, all you asked is state employees, they pay 12.6% of their healthcare premiums and people in the private sectors many times play twice that and you asked them to contribute 5.8% toward their pension. previously they paid nothing. very standard operating procedure. >> it's simple. not only matching, if he are lucky ...