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Some handful of actually breached. but there still is no evidence any votes for changed or rolls were manipulated, kasie. >> do we know if dhs told the states that were successfully hacked? you mentioned there were some who said this isn't what happened, but do they have the information they needed from the u.s. government? >> it's not clear. they have been a lot of back and forth on that. because some of this information is classified. in the cases where some states disagree, it can be a matter of semantics. we saw them breach state systems with the intent. the bottom line is 1 states were ta...

Has been asked to be done. >> bill: you are pushing a new cyber law to help coordination between the intel community and state elections across the country to prevent fraud and cyber abuse in the future. >> it is necessary because the russians tried to interfere in our elections. they didn't change any votes anywhere but they were trying to engage. they probed 21 different states in their election systems prior to our election last time. my focus is let's help the states knowing that the states are in charge of their own election, not federalize them but help the states think through the proce...

And that is for the state systems at least, and i assume it's similarly true for the federal, the computer systems we use are not what you use at work every day. i mean, virginia didn't update its dugt system, for instance, from 1970s programming until the last decade. we have a lot of old, antiquated, really, systems that are being relied upon in various parts of the country to make all of these different connections between the mental health system, the criminal justice -- >> don't you think we need to get a handle on the legislation and the laws on the books? computer systems can be upgrade...

Multiple stories. >> we still have those 33,000 from hillary. >> you can't -- >> wait. the bottom line here is, anderson, when we talk about collusion and all of this, i want somebody to come to me and say where in the lower cumberland county that voted for donald trump was affected by this, that any of the 67 counties that voted on election day and -- >> you're not concerned about russian interference in the u.s. election? >> i don't think it affected the election. >> that's not what the intelligence committee has -- >> come to my precinct and show me. >> they've never said that any of the ba...

Of the ballots were hacked. what they've said was that the russians successfully targeted 22 state systems. they hacked into three states voter registration databases and managed to steal voter information that they have the ability -- you can read into this. they have the ability now and next time, they are perfecting their active measures so they can reach the ballot box next time and that they used things like fake social media accounts across the midwest that looked like jack from michigan, you know, and this is what's important to me, where they were able to move fake news around. that is...