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And why are we getting to th 12th amendment that's part of what the nation needs to absorb. we reported earlier on thi program. the committee is now putting i for writing in history i'll tell you why right now. and it is bad for trump. it shows there was thi arguably written pass to overturn the elections if yo force it into the house vote i a way that it might work if you are thinking -- you haven't heard a lot abou this before, and it's big, we've been talking about january six for a long time. and the guy on the news just told you we wrote it dow before and our coverage in the committee rep...

Jacob that that part of my discussion with mr. eastman was, if you're right, don't you think that al gore would have had just declared himself president of the united states? and john eastman acknowledged that his plan would likely violate the federal law. the electoral count and would likely lose 9-0 in the supreme court. the reason that's important, if they knew the plan was illegal, that could be to criminal intent. >> that's such a good al gore argument. i hadn't heard that. so let's talk about the slate of fake electors. we've heard about that in bjork. >> this is something we know the ju...

Didn't need to submit our votes for joe biden. our state votes for donald trump. jacobs does a really masterful job of walking you through the illegality and explaining why it is already been recently, at that point. contradicted by a ruling issue of the d.c. court of appeals. very clearly stating that this proposal is illegal. whether or not this memo as seen by the former president, we don't know. all of the evidence accumulates and becomes quite clear that trump either knew or should have known that what he was doing proposing violated the law. and that the -- was just a big lie. >> we are ...

Local election boards that count the votes? how can we sit here and talk about next year when they are not waiting to next year to change state votes? >> any sense of joe manchin playing ball? >> i think he has been in the conversations. he is not as inflexible as he once seemed to be. he is not saying he is there yet. we have to keep the pressure and appeal on. this is too important and too significant for performance politics. this is about getting to the table from the streets to the suites and making this happen. those that want to be performative are not serving us well. i think it is abo...

Nations, the militiamen, the inner ring was the ring of the coup. it's a funny word in american context because we think of coups taking place against presidents. but this was a coup organized by the president against the vice president and against the congress. but the effort there was to get them to reject electoral college votes in a completely unlawful and unprecedented way in order to lower biden's total below to 70, kick it into contingency where the gop had 27 state votes. and i don't think liz cheney representing wyoming would have voted for him, but he would have still had a majority ...