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Chief points. talking points was to get rid of the unconstitutional executive orders. and maybe he is still going to do it at some point but it was a very clear i will immediately cancel these orders and it doesn't take that much to do it. he just has to say memo saying hey, stop it and knock it off. >> tucker: you also said does not mean deporting large numbers, just mean stopping that legalization. >> it right, exactly. it's a two-year amnesty that gives work permits, social security numbers, driver's license and a lot of things. it's two years. they need to at least stop renewing them and s...

What's the answer? >> the answer is that basically as a society, we have to decidee what is defined as fair insurance. if republicans don't like that part of the law, then by alled means, go ahead and attacked a part of the law. you think the law benefits are too generous? in that's the part of the law you don't like? l that's no reason to rip the whole law down. >> tucker: that's such a propaganda line. i was arguing that the benefits weren't benefiting. don't call them benefits because they are not. i don't want to buy it, i don't care to have it, therefore it is not a benefit. i'm not argui...

>> i understand there is a broad debate over affirmative action -- i guess i don't think that recruiting or trying to bring out a diverse workforce is that. i don't think you think that either. >> tucker: i'm not talking about generalities, obviously them for that. i am talking about barring, people on the basis of theirt skin color from a job, it's really clear. why is that not racism?ui you didn't think it was. ethically, why is that okay with you? >> recruiting a diverse workforce is something that inevitably -- and all the big affirmative action cases, there is an argument about does bring...

Given the introduction. only one choice. for the small share of americans, to buy insurance on -- he said premiums are up 25%. he didn't mention they've been up 0% the two years before and on average over the last three years have grown slower than the group before the law was passed. it's really about myth explanation of what the law has done. >> tucker: i am amazed that you would see on television and i think i'm quoting exactly --m people don't like it because i don't know what it's done for them. i just want to at re-ask my question. if you are an american, an adult, able to drive, vote, a...

>> tucker: just give me a straight answer. >> i do not see that as racist,, correct. >> tucker: let's have lunch and kind of hammer out the definition. great to see you. president trump took its first major immigration action today. he announced two executive orders that should build a wall on the mexican border. john roberts, tell us what happened. >> tucker, good evening. i went to so many of his campaign events and there was kind of a running but going among people. was donald trump promising to build a wall just to get votes? and then fall to political pressure once he got into office? or ...