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Do you think there is any sort of decent person who is sort of doing his best and just had ancillary damage from this? or is it just who deserves who gets what came to them? >> all i did with state the facts of who the losers are. the wealthiest americans and the people who are healthy is in the market beforehand. i am owning that those people were disadvantaged by the law but let's focus on the fact that there are small number, relative to the people who benefited from the law. many, many, many more people benefited from this law and were hurt by it. you just want to focus on the small number...

They make money off of any law. that's the nature of the business. >> tucker: because they are forcing people to buy things that they don't want and don't help them. last simple question. why should i be required to buy a plan that covers things that do not apply and will never apply to me such as breastfeeding, prenatal care, substance abuse, counseling, those will never apply to me as a nondrinking man. why should i have to buy those plans? >> well, basically it's aa legitimate question you're asking. you might also ask why a woman a has to buy a plan that covers prostate or viagra? that's a...

You barred people based on the color of their skin. maybe you can every educate me on what racism is. >> it was aimed at people of color. i think lots of companies try to recruit a diverse workforce. including buzzfeed. there also very clear, legal restrictions on how exactly you can go about recruiting. >> tucker: you advertised. the law stopped you from doing what you tried to do, which is exclude people from the job on the basis of your skin color. i'm asking you a straightforward question. >> i'm not suggesting you're being humorless here. >> tucker: why is that not textbook racism? if you...

Are not going to cover racists like they have a legitimate point of view. >> tucker: i will tell you exactly how. clearly, buzzfeed news has a pretty open political agenda. masquerading as journalism. >> is it open or is it masquerading? >> tucker: it is open and obvious for those of us were trying to pay attention. i think you are hiding behind journalistic standards. the day the supreme court ruled on gay marriage, you wrote this, "the supreme court ruling today, astonishing to me as much as we all knew it was coming, marks the story that has helped define buzzfeed as we've grown and one tha...

This law, surveys have gottenin benefits from plans that are new on the affordable care act, they vastly approve of those plans. people that oppose the law are people who have not been heard from the law. they just heard in my view, they've heard a lot about information about it. >> tucker: you, made the point, thank you for answering directly and i think honestly. you are saying people benefit from it, like it, i think that is true.t, some people really like the aca. but the majority doesn't. there is still a majority. i thought this law was supposed to help everybody? >> this law was never s...