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Well, to discuss that, im now enjoyed by conflict research or 3 and the roof glass will prefer the glass. So its great to talk to thank you very much for your time. Youre welcome. Now i know you started complex for much of your academic career. You in reach the field by introducing your own modal of conflict escalation and hang on to a few years ago. For most people. This was a very academic, very fair reticle, very remote discipline. Conflicts were far away, it wasnt something that had a direct impact on peoples lives, at least on the lives of people in the western hemisphere. And i think tha...

The, the welcome to world a part the study of war is one of the oldest academic disciplines going back for millennia. But it encountered a new read the new specimen in the ukranian conflict. Pursuits for years in its proxy form in 2022, its built into the open, affecting countries, half of will the way whats going to teach us about the nature of more than the warfare. Well discuss that. Im now enjoyed by conflict researcher 3 and the roof glass slope for 1st and last. So its great to talk to you. Thank you very much for your time. Youre welcome. Now i know you started conflicts for much of you...

And new technology and, and all that. So we are not reading this as a traditional understanding before which is more or less regulated by International Law to new kinds of i would say of item of competition, etc. Ipad and make it more difficult also to control that isnt the nature of the conflicts that has changed or do you think its perhaps the cumulative effect of the old dynamics that has reached the boiling point one if can no longer be contained this is not so near because you always have different stages of escalation and that is the moment its exploding or boiling. Thats what we can see...

Has changed your own approach to the subject in any way, to some extent because the nature of the model has changed. And i think if they, it was a cyber ball, for instance, and new technology and spend all that. So we are not dealing with the traditional understanding of 4, which is more or less regulated by International Law to new kinds of i would say of platinum of competition, etc. Thats pad and make it more difficult also to control that isnt the nature of the conflicts that has changed or do you think its perhaps the cumulative effect of the old dynamics that has reached the boiling poin...

Some join when hes sitting behind us, we have to be constantly watching to see if hes got instructions on whats happening during the course of the hearing. And its very difficult to talk to him in a secure and confidential way, because in order for him to communicate to us, he has to say it loud enough so that the people next to us can often hear its our opposing counsel. Thats unsatisfactory, of course. And while we made an application, now legal Team Identification during the course of the hearing to have him sit with them was denied the are the same case of the case of the case brought agai...