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Destroyed. let's not make a mistake about why it's being done. you have people who want to get rid of this thing. they want to send a signal to their political supporters that, hey, we're standing up for what you believe in by getting rid of the founding fathers and everything else. and i just don't think it's right. the professor, by the way, made some points about the civil war statues, the confederacy statues that you know i agree with. i don't like the row mantization of it. i don't like the lionization of lee at the expense of lincoln and grant and sherman and others. but what i don't lik...

>> okay, but -- >> i think this is a turning point. >> you know what he echoed yesterday? he just echoed talk radio. they mauved to the statue argument. the erasing history argument, and hey, they're just as violent on the left. is that what his base is hearing? is that what he's being -- >> first of all, i think one of the things -- >> i say his base. i don't want to call it a conservative base. that is a very, very stall small piece of the american social fabric and the electorate. and that is not actually his base. >> no, i think the conservative much movement is trying to figure out how to...