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secretary for six years, and then foreign— secretary for six years, and then foreign secretary for a year. any period _ foreign secretary for a year. any period in— foreign secretary for a year. any period in which looks like the global— period in which looks like the global economy is slowing down, and there may— global economy is slowing down, and there may be more of these international finance ministers summits, _ international finance ministers summits, he will be a steadying force _ summits, he will be a steadying force of — summits, he will be a steadying force. of course, he was a big backer— force. of course, he was a big backer of— force. of course, he was a big backer of rishi sunak, and to return slightly— backer of rishi sunak, and to return slightly to _ backer of rishi sunak, and to return slightly to my earlier point, lots of senior— slightly to my earlier point, lots of senior tory mps are scratching their— of senior tory mps are scratching their heads, we still have liz truss in charge _ their heads, we still have liz truss in charge at— their heads, we still have liz truss in charge at implementing what looks like being _ in charge at implementing what looks like being an economic prospectus that is— like being an economic prospectus that is closer to what rishi sunak set out, — that is closer to what rishi sunak set out, and is now going to be backed — set out, and is now going to be backed up— set out, and is now going to be backed up by a chancellor who supported rishi sunak in that contest _ supported rishi sunak in that contest i_ supported rishi sunak in that contest. i think are problems in the party— contest. i think are problems in the party are _ contest. i think are problems in the party are far— contest. i think are problems in the party are far from over. we contest. i think are problems in the party are far from over.— party are far from over. we are ressed party are far from over. we are pressed for _ party are far from over. we are pressed for time, _ party are far from over. we are pressed for time, but - party are far from over. we are pressed for time, but you - party are far from over. we are l pressed for time, but you agreed broadly with what lucy is saying? tt broadly with what lucy is saying? tit quite interesting looking at the turn of the letters, it's quite respectful, there's a sense of regret. we know that liz truss and kwasi kwarteng were on the same page
times. mr. loose, thank you for being with us. >> pleasure to be here, alex. >> so i want to get your sense of, i mean, we know that queen elizabeth was not dictating fiscal policy in the uk. but she was widely seen as a stabilizing force for the country. i wonder, against this backdrop of some degree of economic turmoil, how meaningful her passing is. how necessary she may have been as a steadying force in this particular moment? >> i mean, i think given her longevity and the symbol of continuity that she was, that anytime her passing would have been quite a convulsion. and the marking of an end of an era. but this time in particular, as you have just outlined with, you know, i think winter of discontent coming. another winter of discontent after the one in the late 70s that, where strikes, you know,
clown car of a debate, i just felt bad for the moderator who had to like try to get some sense into people who don't want to see reality for what it is. >> yeah, it was miller time for him when that thing was over, that's for sure. and molly, let's talk about congresswoman liz cheney because, i mean, she has been sort of a steadying force, i think, throughout these january 6th hearings, and she's been attacked by republicans for being part of that committee, but she gave this speech at the reagan presidential library. >> i want to speak to every young girl watching tonight. the power is yours and so is the responsibility. there are no bystanders in a constitutional republic. these days for the most part, men are running the world, and it is really not going that well. [ laughter ] >> yeah, molly, this is somebody who may get primaried up in
committee. he did a great turn as ambassador to germany. he then came back as a senator. this is a job he didn't need, but as one of the great grandparents of the director of national intelligence position, i was one of the co-sponsors, co-authors of the legislation that set up the dni, he fits the bill. he's a steadying force in the trump administration. he made a comment in aspen last summer that no one seems to have forgotten, because he was blindsided by the fact that the president might want to have another meeting with vladimir putin. and i think that sort of soured his relationship with the president. but he's a steady hand. he's a good guy. he doesn't need the job, but i think we need him in the job. >> all right, jane harmon, former ranking democrat on house intel, director of the woodrow wilson center. thank you so much. the trump administration releasing a new proposal for food stamps that could kick millions out of the program. also just in, ahead of tomorrow's blockbuster hearing, robert mueller makes a
resignation and her efforts to install possibly dina powell as her successor come at a time when this administration really can't stand to lose any more ground among female voters. >> yeah. i think that's part of what makes the timing of this so difficult. partially it's because nikki haley is just such a popular person in the administration. i would put her probably alongside defense secretary james mattis as being somebody who is liked by both the right and the left. is also well known to the american people. and is viewed as something of a steadying force, perhaps, by your average american out there who doesn't maybe follow politics on the regular, but, you know, pops in from time to time and sees her talking about issues like north korea, sees her at the united nations. but you're right, there is also, you know, losing that kind of person four weeks before an election in which the conduct of the administration could be on the ballot, you're also losing the most high-profile arguably female in that administration and so i think that in addition
process element so he can have a fair hearing. and trump trashed that all over the place saying let's just take the weapons. you know, this is -- i mean and that's just one thing aside from all the internal conflicts, what you mentioned yesterday with people asking for help in regards to russia meddling in future elections. things are spiraling out of control. i would hope that members of congress could be a steadying force. but which all appearances everyone is just -- in duck and cover mode. >> thank you, scott and amanda i appreciate your time thank you. >> i want to bring in fareed zakaria. you just heard me read off the list of huge stories. that's not all of them. these are self-inflicted wounds. i know the white house and folks say this is fake news. but everything we reported has had a consequence. jared kushner's security clearance. you know, kelly and downgrading and changing the way security clearances are given. hope hicks and her relationship with rob porter, and you know
and trump trashed that all over the place saying let's just take the weapons. you know, this is -- i mean and that's just one thing aside from all the internal conflicts, what you mentioned yesterday with people asking for help in regards to russia meddling in future elections. things are spiraling out of control. i would hope that members of congress could be a steadying force. but which all appearances everyone is just -- in duck and cover mode. >> thank you, scott and amanda i appreciate your time thank you. >> i want to bring in fareed zakaria. you just heard me read off the list of huge stories. that's not all of them. these are self-inflicted wounds. i know the white house and folks say this is fake news. but everything we reported has had a consequence. jared kushner's security clearance. you know, kelly and downgrading and changing the way security clearances are given. hope hicks and her relationship with rob porter, and you know what she said to the committee. white lies.
they never seem to know, including kelly, everything that will come from the president's twitter feed, or from his mouth. >> one of my favorite parts of your story, and a great story, was the amazing anecdote they're having a white house staff meeting about taxes and they're all waiting to hear what the new chief of staff could think about the whole tax situation and he basically says i pay taxes and i don't like it. i'm paraphrasing, but i wopnder how a chief of staff, for someone like donald trump, who they hope will be guided by a more steadying force, can he stay a-political? >> we'll have to see. it is early in his tenure. i think it is telling when you look at his time at the department of homeland security, he reflected the president's objectives with the travel ban, muslim majority countries. he really executed that instead
north korea at all when he was in malaysia, the stop before the refuelling in guam. as i was talking it in real time and speaking to reporter on the trip, trying to figure out why hadn't he mentioned it given the heightened alarm about north korea. it was because it was not coordinated with the state department. michael, you wrote a column for the washington post entitled rex tillerson is a huge disappointment. you said if cabinet members are to be judged by the gap between expectation and performance, rex tillerson is among the worst, he was supposed to be one of the adults in the room, a steadying force, but tillerson is ineffectual and destabilizing, unfamiliar with the workings of government, unwilling to provide inspirational leadership, disconnected from american values and seemingly hostile to the department in his care. that's tough stuff. >> yeah, i think that it is pretty broadly shared, including at the state department by the way. this is a leader that we're in the middle of a crisis, but more broadly supported 30% cuts in