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Only by achieving the degree of strength necessary to defeat china aggression in asia, and russian aggression in europe, in simultaneous time frames can we deter either of those situations from occurring. (crosstalk) your military rationale is very clear there. you're steeped in, frankly, military history of the last 30 years of modern warfare, you can see the impact that military forces can have, but you also know that back home there is no appetite for that at the moment. how do you turn that ship if that is what you think is needed? well, hopefully, this evolution of what's going on and the...

Said he was going to bow out of that conference is now an ems r emmisary and in an effort to reinforce ties at a time when the united states is seeking to ratchet up pressure on iran. let me go to you lastly here. we talked about jared kushner going back to this interview in "the washington post," there was a remark between he and the crown prince. they're two young guys. jared doesn't know him well or anything. they're just two young people around the same age. they like each other, i believe. i mean, that's a cross. >> unbelievable. >> it's, like, which one? going back to your point, actuall...

The bus. >> do you think he believes the words he's saying? >> i don't think he really knows what he's saying. im not sure he's steeped in, you know, all of the details of how brutal the dictatorship is. but doesn't matter to him. >> if it gets you to a denuclearized north korea, do the words matter? >> they matter regardless. i don't think praising a dictator is necessarily critical to getting to a denuclearized north korea. that's a goal we all want. the thing is, if this country gives up its leadership and standing up for human rights, for decent politics, you know what do we tell people ar...