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Saying there is absolutely no meaningful accommodation to catholic universities, other religious charities or catholic hospitals. and indeed we still have to subis i died through premium support, policies that allow for the use of and give drugs and contraception, sterilization procedures, et cetera, this is against our religious liberty concerns and the vice president is simply wrong on this. so he tried to say i stand with my church but then the top church officials in the united states came out today and said huh-uh, you are not getting this right. they are obviously suing the obama adminis...

Said about that hhs mandate saying there is absolutely no meaningful accommodation to catholic universities, other religious charities or catholic hospitals. and indeed we still have to subis i died through premium support, policies that allow for the use of and give drugs and contraception, sterilization procedures, et cetera, this is against our religious liberty concerns and the vice president is simply wrong on this. so he tried to say i stand with my church but then the top church officials in the united states came out today and said huh-uh, you are not getting this right. they are obvio...

Type of pharmacy which it sounds like they should regulate this. what do you think? there is not federal jurisdiction over this middleman pharmacy for the fda. unit i say government over reach i believe there should be regulations and law that is allows the fda to go in and monitor the situation. many of them are very safe many are effective. but without that over reach you can't be sure the sterilization procedures are in place. >> be weary of all things injected into our body. it's not like it's a vitamin. that seems a little less harmless. >> make sure the stretreatment are getting is som...

I think what we're saying here, what the president is saying is, well, the church will still have its insurance policies and the insurance policies will for free pay for sterilization procedures and contraceptives. a number of people thought about that for 24 hours and said, but insurance companies don't really pay for things for free. what they do is pass on the cost to the premium payer which is the church. so this argument i think will continue, though i suspect it'll continue legislatively and in the courts. >> can i ask e.j. a quick question on this point? >> yeah. >> it really is, e.j., ...

Return to the organization? >> to the organization. >> yeah. i think this is a very complex issue, actually. and one of the things i was thinking this morning is, address the church side, the conference of bishops obviously do not reflect, although they reflect perfectly church dogma, then they have their flock, which has an entirely different feeling about the place of contraception as a moral issue. >> i have to tell you, this is not about contraception. a, it is about religious freedom, but, b, the very specific issue it's about is contraceptives, abortion indu inducing drugs and sterilizat...