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Yet we find that there have been an uptick of surveillance during the obama years. and we have individuals surveilled who are american citizens based on shady foreign contacts -- talking about carter page and what they did with george papadopoulos. that's what our intel agencies are all about? >> i think we are trying to obfuscate something, you are referring to the mueller investigation and its roots. paul manafort's lawyers said in papers that he met with a russian spy in manhattan gave them secret polling data that would enable them to actually decide how to affect the election. that has no...

And we have individuals surveilled who are american citizens based on shady foreign contacts -- talking about carter page and what they did with george papadopoulos. that's what our intel agencies are all about? >> i think we are trying to obfuscate something, you are referring to the mueller investigation and its roots.g, paul manafort's lawyers said in papers that he met with a russian spy in manhattan, gave them secret polling data that would enable them to actually decide how to affect the election. that has nothing to do with the fake news or anything else. that's what manafort's lawyers ...