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The legislative branch is so weak. >> well, put up the list again because these are not the -- johnny isakson is a legislator's legislator. he enjoyed legislating. he was never a fire and brim stone guy. shimkus, they are sort of the cogs in the machine, sort of your everyday member of congress. i don't mean it to demean, but the rank and file in a good way. >> congress doesn't work anymore. >> they're like i can't get anything done anymore. >> also don't underestimate being in the minority to house republicans. that is a big deal. being in the minority in the senate you can live with it. but ...

A guy who was a very successful chief executive in florida. he cut taxes. he reformed education. he is very pro choice when it comes to education in the sense that he wants to allow the poor to have the kind of choices the rich have. he has been very successful with that as governor. since he left the governor's mansion he has been working on that in the private sector and the nonprofit sector. he is a man of considerable accomplishments. it might have to do with his manner. he is not a fire and brim stone guy. >> isn't that what is needed to go up against hillary clinton? you have constituenc...

Successful chief executive in florida. he cut taxes. he reformed education. he is very pro choice when it comes to education in the sense that he wants to allow the poor to have the kind of choices that the rich have. he has been very successful with that as governor and since he left the governor's mansion, he has been working on that in the private sector. he is a man of considerable accomplishments. it might have to do with his manner. he is not a fire and brim stone guy. >> isn't that what is needed to go up against hillary clinton? you have, i would say, i would put it at about 35%. liber...