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>> roger's relationship with trump has been so interconnected that it's hard to define what's roger and what's donald. it would be clearly a trump presidency. i think it's influenced by stone philosophy. >> i have to say when i watched your documentary the first time, i actually wrote that quote down because it just blew my mind knowing what we know and seeing where we are now, donald trump and paul manafort are the two people speaking on behalf of roger stone. that quote is very interesting and it's true. roger stone has known president trump for more than 40 years. he's been at his side for ...

Does rule to gag stone, he still has free speech rights to discuss, like, immigration or foreign relations or tom brady, but not discuss this case. the judge also made comments that seemed to lean against stone note, quote, this is a criminal proceeding and not a public relations campaign. but stone is arguing he must mount exactly that kind of pr campaign to defend himself and to prevent people he says from thinking any silence would mean that he's guilty. >> i believe that in the current atmosphere when one is accused of wrongdoing and one has no response, he either is not available or doesn...

Americans struggling to meet their basic needs, americans living paycheck to paycheck and there is an opportunity here to dig into that. >> before i go back to jason on a couple stories we promised to get to, i also just wanted to go beyond the democrats and ask what about you think of howard shultz's fli shultz's flirtation. >> oh gosh. >> you seem ready. go ahead. >> even bloomberg knew not to pull this stunt. honestly, one lesson that we've learned, especially in 2016, is that an independent candidate who picks off 2%, maybe 3% of voters, can be a major spoiler. shultz needs to have several...

Running against democrats. i don't know why that's a surprise. he's, quote, potentially rethinking his aspirations. >> it sounds like someone who didn't give a genuine thought before he put his neck out there. >> snap. w i think this was your first time on the beat. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> what i'm going to do is turn a page from politics to civil rights. this is a story i mentioned at the top of the show. this is a photo that is now confirmed from virginia governor ralph northam's 1984 medical school yearbook page. as you see, it has this highly offensive image of a ...