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Why is that . Is he couldnt ihe couldnting. He seems to be the person that makes donald trump the most nervous. All of those stay strong, he drnt wadidnt want to fire him. But i think that is looming out there. So you have this committee that is chaired by Jeff Sessions where the gentleman who was in charge of it recruits in papadopoulous and he is now actually also talking to at least the Senate Committees and probably to muellers team as well, you have this team that now seems to be kind of in low customer of the contacts with russia in addition to trump jr. , to kushner and others. Locust o...

Really doesn't know much about what stone's up to. take a look at manafort. >> roger's relationship with trump has been so interconnected that it's hard to define what's roger and what's donald. while it would be clearly a trump presidency, i think it's influenced by a stone philosophy. >> i have to say when i watched your documentary the first time, i actually wrote that quote down because it just blew my mind knowing what we know and seeing where we are now that paul manafort and donald trump are the two people in your video that are speaking on behalf of roger stone. that quote is very inte...

>> roger's relationship with trump has been so interconnected that it's hard to define what's roger and what's donald. it would be clearly a trump presidency. i think it's influenced by stone philosophy. >> i have to say when i watched your documentary the first time, i actually wrote that quote down because it just blew my mind knowing what we know and seeing where we are now, donald trump and paul manafort are the two people speaking on behalf of roger stone. that quote is very interesting and it's true. roger stone has known president trump for more than 40 years. he's been at his side for ...

Roger and what's donald. while it will be clearly a trump presidency, i think it's influenced by stone philosophy. >> as a lawyer, i think you'd probably tell these people, stop talking, right? or they record these things? >> and the indictment of stone, it shows that there are e-mails. there are texts. the special counsel's investigation has many communications through the evidence they've gathered between roger stone and multiple individuals in the trump campaign. and the hardest thing that i think is going to be for them to separate is there is this timeline in the middle of july 2016 where...

What's donald, but it will be clearly a trump presidency i think it's influenced by stone philosophy >> joining us now is craig ungar, author of "house of trump: house of putin, the untold story of donald trump and the russian mafia" and back with us, tim o'brien. okay craig, i'm going to start with you on this. i want to play one more little byte from this great documentary, "get me roger stone,"which i highly recommend people watch in addition to reading your books here is manafort talking about roger stone and their co-relationship with trump >> did roger recommend you for the job? >> roger...