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$10 million from foreign nationals. >> jesse: $10 million to the biden family and nobody can tell us what the biden family business is. no one. and 20 different shell companies? that sounds legit. and it wasn't just money from china or ukraine. money was coming in from everywhere. >> while vice president biden with his lecturing romania on anticorruption policies, in reality he was a walking billboard for his son and family to collect money. the bidens received over $1 million for the deal. and 16 of the 17 payments to their associates' account that funneled the biden's money occurre...

Voters in iowa. joining me now is lloyd dogett of texas and wayne slater, senior political writer for the dallas morning news. thanks for joining us. i have been watching governor perry. i have been watching his attempt to deal with the visual. he now wears glasses on television. he got rid of the snappy blazer with the gold buttons he used to wear. he's trying to look like a serious grown-up. he's admitting it's all visual. sending guys and women to the border with no authority to arrest, pursue, stop anything, do anything. he says it would make a good visual. i'm wondering who he's sending t...

Military attack? >> stop is a big word. they can set it back and interfere with it and obstruct it and i think that on balance is a very good thing. >> chris: kirsten? >> the question really is, is it effective. obviously if it was effective i agree. there has been a lot of criticism from the left i actually don't agree with they claim this is terrorism. you know, but, of course, this isn't -- i don't see this as terrorism because, of course, we are trying to stop someone from making an attack versus attacking somebody just to create terror which are two completely different things. the issue ...

Military attack? >> stop is a big word. they can set it back and interfere with it and obstruct it and i think that on balance is a very good thing. >> chris: kirsten? >> the question really is, is it effective. obviously if it was effective i agree. there has been a lot of criticism from the left i actually don't agree with they claim this is terrorism. you know, but, of course, this isn't -- i don't see this as terrorism because, of course, we are trying to stop someone from making an attack versus attacking somebody just to create terror which are two completely different things. the issue ...

Military attack? >> stop is a big word. they can set it back and interfere with it and obstruct it and i think that on balance is a very good thing. >> chris: kirsten? >> the question really is, is it effective. obviously if it was effective i agree. there has been a lot of criticism from the left i actually don't agree with they claim this is terrorism. you know, but, of course, this isn't -- i don't see this as terrorism because, of course, we are trying to stop someone from making an attack versus attacking somebody just to create terror which are two completely different things. the issue ...