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An example out of her to deter this new kind of leak that she basically was the first to figure out could be done and did carry out. >> charlie, what do you make about this prospect of julian assange from wikileaks coming back to the united states saying that he's already contesting any case against him of that the justice department might mount here. if he does stop fighting extradition and comes to the united states, what would you expect from that case? >> well, i'm not sure there are charges pending against him. there's not been any kind of confirmed report. he's not an american citizen an...

Three years. i believe the longest other sentence, the next-longest sentence is three and a half years. so the manning sentence is an order of magnitude greater than anyone else has ever received. of course her leak was, to be fair, to be fulsome of our discussions, it was qualitatively different than most other leaks. she was a bulk leaker, not "here's the secret" but "here's all the secrets." and it's clear the military and the prosecution was trying to throw the book at her and make an example out of her to deter this new kind of leak that she basically was the first to figure out could be ...

I believe the longest other sentence, the next-longest sentence is three and a half years. so the manning sentence is an order of magnitude greater than anyone else has ever received. of course her leak was, to be fair, to be fulsome of our discussions, it was qualitatively different than most other leaks. she was a bulk leaker, not "here's the secret" but "here's all the secrets." and it's clear the military and the prosecution was trying to throw the book at her and make an example out of her to deter this new kind of leak that she basically was the first to figure out could be done and did ...