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As a justification to clamp down on with voter i.d. laws and things that are voter suppression efforts. you have to have the voter fraud to have the voter suppression. and that's what this is really about. >> and this is, i mean, david, again, we know that this is as kiersten said, this is about much more about voter suppression if there is any sort of strategy to that. even the person in charge would be in charge of a major investigation into voter fraud would be at the house, and they're saying they're not interested in an investigation on this. >> yeah. there's a couple of different explana...

Voter suppression laws going forward toward the 2018 and 2020 elections. back to the bernhard langer story, the "new york times" story casts doubt on that story or the details as relaid by the president. but say that the president basically had the story right, it's still one instance of potential and strange voter fraud and as kirsten said, how can someone tell looking at someone if they're citizen of the united states. talking about one instance and if you listen to the way president trump spoke on the campaign trail and now, many times speaking publicly and offering evidence of particular a...