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How are they being impacted by obama care? is there enough certainty for them to be able to project their costs and now start hiring? >> well, i think there's a lot of regulations in obama care that are problematic to small businesses and businesses generally. but i don't think it's just obama care. if you want to do a jobs program in my mind, as i said, reduce regulation, i'm a big fan of the stossel rule, named after john stossel, the fox news host. for every regulation you add, eliminate two, three regulations that are burdening businesses already. also what i think is important, the number...

Bureaucracy. if they are notriting rules they don't think they are doing their job. there are always more rules. they ought to pass the stossel rule. i will propose that thursday. >> what is the stossel rule. >> for every new law you pass you have to repeal five old ones first. >> bill: okay. but if you were president or dictator or king,. >> can i be? >> bill: it would be a free fire zone. there would knob regulation. everybody would be able to do everything they wanted. i would be walking around and people would be, you know. >> no. no. >> amphetamine addicts would be living on my front lawn...

Paperwork. and you better watch out if you dare practice capitalism. this science geek tried that. he was jailed for selling one pounds of sodium on e-bay. i put myself in here because i figured it's a matter of time before someone locks me up. it will probably be the food police because you know what? i like these. cheeseburgers. megyn: you are in trouble, stossel. that cheeseburger thing is real. we just did a story sphw san francisco banning pepsi, coke and anything they consider sugary or bad from you on city property. it's real. >> they are always doing more. they feel they are not doing ...

Bureaucracy. if they are not writing rules they don't think they are doing their job. there are always more rules. they ought to pass the stossel rule. i will propose that thursday. >> what is the stossel rule. >> for every new law you pass you have to repeal five old ones first. >> bill: okay. but if you were president or dictator or king,. >> can i be? >> bill: it would be a free fire zone. there would knob regulation. everybody would be able to do everything they wanted. i would be walking around and people would be, you know. >> no. no. >> amphetamine addicts would be living on my front la...

Bureaucracy. if they are not writing rules they don't think they are doing their job. there are always more rules. they ought to pass the stossel rule. i will propose that thursday. >> what is the stossel rule. >> for every new law you pass you have to repeal five old ones first. >> bill: okay. but if you were president or dictator or king,. >> can i be? >> bill: it would be a free fire zone. there would knob regulation. everybody would be able to do everything they wanted. i would be walking around and people would be, you know. >> no. no. >> amphetamine addicts would be living on my front la...