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Site. obviously, not everyone has been evacuated off the immediate site. right off the railroad tracks here. about 150 meters away from me is where the civilians have been taken.. but here throughout the railroad tracks, there's still stretches being moved by fire personnel to -- it looks like evacuate other folks. >> patrick, the extraordinary description you gave us of what it was like to be in that cafe car while it was rolling over flying off the tracks and given that there are no seat belts on amtrak trains one of the things that i wasn't picturing, which i now realize is part of this is ...

In delaware in the delaware stop the person next to him -- find something tt to repeat what you just said you saw senator carper of delaware on that train that was involved in this crash? >> yeah prior to the crash. he had just gotten off. >> oh he had just gotten off? >> he had just gotten off. he's okay, yeah. >> in wilmington probably? >> yeah he got off in wilmington, yes, sir. and when we crashed here in northeast philadelphia but there was police that -- the motorbikes that came out and came out to kind of a wooded little area and as well as philadelphia fire.

If this was my wife and i didn't hear, i'd be frustrated which is why, frankly, once i realized our situation was relatively settled and i could hear the first responders come in i tweeted so my wife and brother would know i'm on the train, i'm okay. will call later. >> yeah, patrick, don't misunderstand my frustration with the corporate amtrak offices that have remained silent about this. the people who work on those trains are fantastic. i know a bunch of them and i see them from time to time on the trains. i would expect them to respond the way you have reported that they did. we're joined ...

Trying to maintain calm get the people that were frooeking out, get them out of the train, push them through the emergency window. the other people we stabilized and let them know it was going to be okay that things were under control. >> patrick, in the cafe car that you were in when everybody settled, was that car over on its side? >> yeah. i was upside down on top of -- i mean the tables came out and everything. so i was helping -- i was getting off the guy that i landed on top of and getting everybody set to make sure -- you know we were worried. we didn't know exactly if we were near some...

Amtrak to figure out with all the ticket information that they have the electronic ticket information and all of that that's on these trains and the firefighters were would, of course, need that number, 211. the rescue workers would need to know the total number of passengers so they could account for everyone who was on that train. patrick, what is your sense of how many reinforcements on are on the way. have you seen this group of firefighters and police expanding? >> they're definitely expanding. they're still bringing in some other equipment, more stretches on the site and bringing some ja...