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Not just that but that paul wants to encourage all u.s. lawmakers to go to russia and russia lawmakers to come to the u.s. what would the strat gee be? how -- strategy be? how likely are lawmakers to do this? >> i think paul is operating above his pay grade with an idea like this. i think -- i agree with what errol said and what president carter did. i fully agree with what patti davis, president reagan's daughter, told don nep-- told u about this. and they've warned about the dangers of trump, and i think all the presidents might consider a joint statement supporting all the v.a. directors, a...

Administration. >> matt lewis, it's interesting. the administration wants to take credit for the north korea summit. mike pence put out a statement that president trump's trat gee to ice late the kim regime is working, the north koreans are coming to the table despite the u.s. making zero concessions. the white house is getting credit for the maximum pressure campaign, the sanctions and the like. what the white house wants to do is suggest his rhetoric, the fire and fury rhetoric, calling kim jong un fat, that that's part of it. is it because of that or in spite of that that that is happening?...

Say that thing. i don't say i can dunk an 11-foot hoop because david gregory and i will roll out the 11-foot hoop we have in d.c. and i can be clear i can jump 8'1". i don't understand why you would say something like this when it takes one internet search to prove you 100% absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong. if there's a trat gee behind it i can confidently say it's a bad strategy. >> the suggestion would be, errol the strategy is the truth it what we say it is, that's what they're banking on. if they say it was about this, the narrative will turn that way. >> the president isn't usi...