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Killer? >> i've gotten used attacks from all kinds of angles and from all kinds of areas under all kinds of pretext and reasons. and a different caliber and fierceness and none of it surprises me. so as far as harsh rhetoric, i think that this is an expression of overall u.s. culture. >> this is a very different tactic under trump. under trump basically someone similar questions were asked of donald trump he basically said that we have to look at ourselves before we point over to russia. this is a complete reversal. biden's being very clear of what he thinks of putin and putin is trying to def...

Under trump basically, when similar questions were asked of donald trump, he basically said that we have to look at ourselves before we point over to russia. this is a complete reversal. biden is being very clear of what he thinks of putin, and putin is trying to deflect. what -- how -- how is putin's strategy walking in now that it's clearly going to be a bit tense? what is he thinking? >> i expect president putin to deny absolutely everything that biden throws his way. so the meeting itself may not be very productive because you're going have biden say don't hack our government, don't interf...

What's their strategy walking in? what do they want out of russia and china? what are they willing to give up to get those things? >> i think that's a great question, leland. we don't know answer, as you see the first lady and the president exit air force one there in hamburg, germany. we don't know answer to that. i think there's been a disappointment inside the white house about the interaction of china when it comes to north korea. you've heard some of that by president trump speaking in speeches and his tweets. as far as russia goes, yes, north korea's going to be a big issue, but syria wi...

That affect the strategy walking in that hall tomorrow night, what do you think it'll be? >> reporter: brian, i think the strategy here is to maintain what they've done the last two debates. they've kept her out of sight. they've given her the time she needs to prepare. i think they are focussed on potentially hand american league curve ball. you saw one right before that second debate. and afterwards, they were really focussed on saying, hey, hillary clinton was not rattled by this. i think they're going to be more prepared for something like that this time, but i think the risk here is a lit...

Else spin themselves out. let her surrogates hit the campaign trail, but how does that affect the strategy walking in that hall tomorrow night, what do you think it'll be? >> reporter: brian, i think the strategy here is to maintain what they've done the last two debates. they've kept her out of sight. they've given her the time she needs to prepare. i think they are focussed on potentially hand american league curve ball. you saw one right before that second debate. and afterwards, they were really focussed on saying, hey, hillary clinton was not rattled by this. i think they're going to be m...