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That hate their country, we will route the fake dues media. we will defeat crooked joe biden, we will drain the swamp once and for all. >> ladle out there. joining me now -- is a professor of history and what you, the author of the lucid newsletter that tracks threats for democracy, the author of the very important book, strongmen, mussolini to the president. unlike donald, trump she does have a ph.d.. also joining me is the former republican congressman, joe walsh of illinois, ran against donald trump for president in 2020. the host of the podcast, white flag, with joe walsh, and the author o...

January 6th he. 's been barred from running for office in brazil until 2030. that's brazil's highest court swiftly handling a presidents efforts to undermine public trust in democratic election. does any of that show the way back from the republican party's venture down the road of authoritarianism? a direct challenge from the inside, the hammer of the rule of law coming down hard? we have to figure this out, and fast. joining us now is ruth ben-ghiat, professor of history at newark university and author of strongmen. jennifer reuben, washington post opinion communist and nbc political columni...

Win an election? can he win an election? >> yes he can. the question is he is he is the strong gets to win the election. i don't know that answer. but biden anyone can be biden. can biden beat other people? yes biden can beat them. on any given day. >> trump reportedly fluent at the blasphemy, and mccarthy made a frenzied effort to rocket all back. according to the new york times he called for the president to apologize. mccarthy also offered an exclusive interview to breitbart, where he said that donald trump was both, stronger today than he was in 2016. mccarthy's damage control is a clear a...

Law >> do you think you could win an election? could you win an election? >> could he win an election? yeah he can. the question, is he the strongest to win an election? i don't know that answer. but can anybody beat biden, anybody could beat biden. can biden beat other people, yes biden can beat them. >> trump was reportedly -- and mccarthy begin a frenzied effort to walk it all back. reporting to the new york times, he called the former president to apologize. mccarthy also offered an exclusive interview with the far-right website bright bar, where he said donald trump was quote stronger tod...

He was firsthand, what happend, how warmly wagner was welcomed. he is not a man he was a week ago, has definitely lost that lustre and i think he is weaker and he is weaker in the eyes of strongmen that expect, have a particular kind of expectation for behaviour. you don't allow things to boil over, that results in an insurrection. final question, what are the global indications of all of this? do you think, for example, the instability in russia could have consequences for china's relationship with russia? i think there are some indications that already might be true. china has enormous footp...