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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:16:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:16:00

>> uh-huh. >> sorry to bother you. >> thank you. >> they do everything under the table. there's no need to try to intimidate any longer. their name alone provides that command presence. versus a very young group, trying to get their name out, trying to let people know, look, we're aggressive, very intimidating, they're more likely to be very disrespectful, more likely to be anti-authority, more likely to be disruptive in the living units. >> nothing can prepare you for going into the unit. you realize these are a bunch of young men with a lot of energy a lot of anger, feel tremendously gauged ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:58:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:58:00

>> unfortunately, by segregating them, we are creating the ground for this gang to become more of a structurized group. we have reports of what are known as checks, the term the orejones created, and the check means you have to prove your heart to stay in the unit. and they're checking every inmate that comes into the unit. you're not going to force somebody to prove their heart unless you're trying to structurize, who is the weaklings, who are the actual members? they're weeding out those that don't belong and this is clearly identifying the factor for a structurized group. >> structure, ofte...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:24:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:24:00

But its members referred to it by another name, the family. because they say that's what they really are. >> heartless felon is like a family for real. it started for me in juvenile, people from other cities, they here, columbus, cincinnati, they go down there, take our stuff, and pick on us, we formed a group. when they take our stuff, we go, get our group together, we go fight them and get our stuff back. >> pierre chatman was the first heartless felon who agreed to talk to me. >> the system call it a gang. it ain't no gang, though. it's a family for real. it's just people sticking up for ea...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:07:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:05:07:00

And make a difference. i know you might say, big sam, i don't think he's talking to me right. i just want you to know, that's just the way it is. nothing personal. this is a jail. you got a life ahead of you. what you do with it is on you. >> at one point in the speech, big sam was warning these inmates that because they were being let out of the situation, they may be viewed as snitches. >> you know just as well as i do, it will come back. why they let bill out? why he's not standing with the fam? why they let jackson out? why he's not standing with the fam. why they let washington out? why h...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150629:04:58:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150629:04:58:00

>> unfortunately, by segregating them, we are creating the ground for this gang to become more of a structurized group. we have reports of what are known as checks, the term the orejones created, and the check means you have to prove your heart to stay in the unit. and they're checking every inmate that comes into the unit. you're not going to force somebody to prove their heart unless you're trying to structurize, who is the weaklings, who are the actual members? they're weeding out those that don't belong and this is clearly identifying the factor for a structurized group. >> structure, ofte...