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You're waking the beast. pivot to something else. what do you think about that advice? >> look, i think first of all, i think you got to be true to yourself, right? and those numbers show that a lot of people they this whole thing has been a sham, that it's been a trump strategy, the same thing of no apology, never acknowledging that you're wrong at all. >> plow through as mitch mcconnell said. >> you saw mcconnell do it you. saw lindsey graham do it you. seau usa john cornyn do it. they adopted trump strategy and then turned an fbi investigation into what if nothing else changes will end up b...

In that circle, he's always been a family-first guy. so this takes that thing that we learned earlier this beak, it's moving up the chain and accelerates it and the closer it gets to him, and he called the "new york times" out of the blue -- >> last night. >> so to simply say, i'm not under investigation. clearly, it's on his mind. >> i think it's also important we've seen the trump strategy in the past has been to disavow people, nike flynn, never heard of him, paul manafort -- >> barely worked for us. >> jared kushner, he absolutely cannot employ that tactic, this is the president's son-in-l...

As two groups of people. people that love donald trump and everybody else and none of those people matter and donald trump is laser focused on whoever loves trump because that's who he's selling $40 hats to, that's who he's selling the gold cards texting out buy a gold card with my face on it and marketing to. donald trump is a marketer. he's selling things to one particular group of people and that's the only people that he cares about. >> and, tim, this would make perfect sense to me as a trump strategy if you show me the poll of 51% support. if he had 51% support and he was never doing a th...

Those people matter and donald trump is laser focused on whoever loves trump because that's who he's selling $40 hats to, that's who he's selling the gold cards texting out buy a gold card with my face on it and marketing to. donald trump is a marketer. he's selling things to one particular group of people and that's the only people that he cares about. >> and, tim, this would make perfect sense to me as a trump strategy if you show me the poll of 51% support. if he had 51% support and he was never doing a thing to try to change any minds, i would go, okay. that could work. >> and, and, you kn...

There are a couple of points he made that i totally agree with. and not a timetable strategy. i think it telegraphs to our enemies to wait us out. we have to recognize the fact, and here's why it matters to us as americans. why this is in our national security interest. we cannot allow another safe haven for terrorists to materialize again. look at what was happening in mosul, in syria, with isis. we can't afford to allow that to happen again. that is why this matters to us. and i think we've learned some good lessons in mosul, in syria, lessons that are being applied right now. i think they'r...