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A couple of months ago, stacey abrams came out on the show and said, you know, there are certain voter i.d. laws she supports and people, their heads elf exploded and said what, what. explain this to us so people can understand. >> what voter i.d. laws -- where is the line? >> this is a great question. i think folks get a little confused about it. my point to the senator was that all voter i.d. laws are not the same. texas has one of the most restrictive voter i.d. laws in the country and it harms communities of color. voter i.d. laws do not have to be that restrictive. texas seaccepts a limit...

It was a sleight of hand. senator cruz knows this is not about the whole state of texas being racist. it's about the fact that you can have a concealed license i.d. that will sufficiently qualify you to get a voting rights -- to have your voting rights and to exercise them, but you can't use your state -- your student i.d. so we know in north carolina, for instance, until recently when that law was struck down that you couldn't -- you couldn't use your public assistance i.d. or you couldn't use your state employee i.d., which are disproportionately held by black people. in wisconsin until rece...

Theory or banning transgender kids from participating in sports, but they're not dealing with gun violence. they're not dealing with the failure of the state's power grid. they're not dealing with hurricanes and all of the other natural disasters they have there, and they say everything is bigger in texas. that's true when it comes to voter suppression as well. this is the toughest state in the country to vote in. this is a state where you can vote with a gun permit but not a student id, where they closed over 750 polling places since the supreme court gutted the voting rights act, where there...

We were facing so many obstacles to expressing our will for a better future. so we in the midst of all of those attacks, attacks coming for years, right, we watched the discriminatory voter rights laws on the books after president obama was allowed in 2008, you can vote with your gun license but not your student i.d. and we put the pain on our backs and stood in long lines that should not exist in our communities, dealt with broken machine answers obstacles and turned out in deep numbers. when will we have to keep overperforming in the face of these obstacles? when will the democrats show up a...

O'rourke feel about that? >> well, that would be an improvement over what we have in texas where you can use your license to carry a firearm to prove who you are at the polling place but you can't use your student i.d. or utility bill to prove who you are at the polling place. it's better than what we have and it's not as far as i would like it to go. what's missing is automatic voter registration and same-day voter registration. there were 7 million texans who didn't vote many registered or with other barriers in place. the other thing i would add is getting the power of big corporate donatio...