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President trump said that dreamers can participate. >> tucker: it dreamers are a tiny -- this is not the same thing. they are not here illegally. president obama made them legal temporary but the 22 million are here illegally. >> before that they advocated to get that status. >> tucker: for political reasons the former president came to their demands. to have this right to go to a foreign country demand that they change the way they govern themselves? >> people do it all the time. american are overseas advocating for all kinds of changes. >> tucker: anything that is okay? i walk over to mexico...

Prevent people from connecting, they're just going to go somewhere else. it's going to happen somewhere someplace. but i still keep coming back to this as a matter of national security, a matter of pure decency when it comes to the bullying efforts, and the lack of willingness. i've seen even myself when i had someone impersonate me on facebook, to get the company to do anything is really difficult. they don't care about that stuf stuff. >> exactly. that's what it keeps coming back to, they just don't care. that is memo was so flippant saying we connect a lot of people, you can see what your h...

Doing that and putting that kind of pressure on him in order to get him to spill on the next person and whoever else they seek in those indictments? >> sandra: the one thing that's interesting about this papadopoulos guy and his guilty plea is what james has said is the prosecutors are trying to prove that they had thrown such a wide net dealing with things that happened way before manafort ever dealt with donald trump as a campaign chairman that they want to show that they are looking into stuf stuff. i wonder about fusion gps. i know we are going to be talking about this later, but there is ...

Means and payment are meaningless. >> david: of course, his technocratic colleagues are not interested in whether the democratic party was directly involved. but the fact is whoever paid for this dossier was played by the russians. i think everybody now agrees that at least most of the stuff that was in that trump dossier was made up and presumably by people source in the kremlin. the point is is that that is at the heart of russia gait. russia was out to destroy our confidence and our democratic system where there was a democrat they were playing or the republicans. that's what was going on w...

People -- the russian ambassador on the other end? i don't know why this is a more of a concern to people when you look at what happened to flynn. i'm not defending him, i don't agree with him on a lot of stuf stuff. this really shouldn't happen. >> jon: was there surveillance of trump tower or the trump campaign? >> a lot of questions. not much evidence to this point, so i think let the intel committee do their work and eventually, they'll tell us what the russians were doing and what our government was doing. >> jon: james freeman for "the wall street journal," jordan fabian from the hill. t...