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She wasn't exactly talking about policy, the moment she got so much attention where she challenged joe biden, it was about bussing, which is not on anybody's top ten issues so i think people are giving her a lot of stylistic points, she was prosecutorial, that she was assertive and took it directly to him, but she wasn't also spilling out any solutions for our segregated communities. >> well, she was challenging biden on the aspect of whether or not he was for states rights in regard to bussing and arguing that there's a role for the federal government to play in ensuring that bussing to des d...

Republicans talking about? they're talking about how many times joe biden laughed or had a reaction rather than the substance. they don't have substance on their side. they can only go to stylistic points. to that paul ryan did a good job of memorizing his answers and we've talked about this before, memorizing enough numbers and facts and figures he can throw them out there is that sounded like that's got to be a plan because there's a lot of numbers in it. >> numbers make a plan. thank you all. next, mr. ryan gets tripped up by, as karen said, the numbers, and it's funny how people's percepti...