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And b, if there are places to help, you perhaps can get some leverage for something in the future, and i'm not saying they can't on this one in particular. but being able to identify those areas where perhaps president biden or another leader can come and say, i think i've got an idea here. maybe we can work through this. maybe i can help. maybe the u.s. is play a role in this. can possibly create some opportunity. >> and there were no additional tensions in the french/british relationship created when the united states led the way that barged france out of the sub deal with australia, britain...

Since then we had very public disagreements between the u.s. and some closest allies on the swift afghanistan withdrawal, the sub deal with australia. is it safe to say that the shine, the shine and -- as i'm asking that question, joe biden has arrived on the hill, this is the moment kaitlan was describing, going on the hill there to garner that support has the shine come off the joe biden presidency? >> i think we're at the point where biden domestically and internationally needs to show results as opposed to just rhetoric or the fact of his presidency is no longer enough to ensure goodwill. ...

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Strategic interests that are being reoriented towards china and the pacific. it's in their right t do so, but we would be naive, or rather we would make a terrible mistake to not want to draw the consequences. this comes just weeks after the united states announced a partnership with australia and britain that allows australia to buy u.s. nuclear submarine technology, effectively cancelling a dealustralia had to purchase submarines from the french. french officials were so angry over the matter, they recalled their ambassador from the u.s. for the first time in history. president ben attempted...

Any of us. >> exactly right. you find some other defense sale, a consolation prize. that's what diplomacy is all about. also, consultations is not when you inform somebody after it's begun to leak. consultations are what you do weeks, months in avance. you say, let's see if we can find a plan b. it may not be your preference. >> there has to be a make good. we have money. >> exactly. right now, it also comes against the backdrop of other things, and we need the europeans on the same page of china. this is driving us further apart. >> while we're on the topic, in washington, we have white house...