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Your big report? >> what do you think about the fact that we've come to an end here and there was no oral interview with president trump? >> so different people have different opinions about it. >> what's yours? >> i don't know. i think it's not a crazy thing knowing you want to wrap up your investigation at a certain period of time. you have an election coming up. the mandate was to look at some narrow things. knowing you're going to get some information from the president in written answers and that to have a protracted fight about compelling someone through subpoena process to testify when ...

There are some risks if they try to issue these subpoenas, they get tide up in court, they can lose a power a bigger way. >> according to a different committee i have been speaking with. they coordinate each other and along with the oversight, the general counsel, the house of representatives of everything they do. what we are seeing in terms of the subpoena process, part of getting into that point involves of what we are seeing today and initial requests for cooperations. if we don't see that then they'll threaten subpoenas and if they need to, they'll issue subpoenas themselves. there is a l...

This special investigation. >> it is not your decision, it is the attorney general's decision, what will you do to try to wrestle back control. >> we're introducing education that will require more to be made public. we can also bring mr. mueller or others before the judiciary committee and subpoena the report, that might result in litigation but we're prepared to do that. i think there is real consensus that the american people have a right to see this report and we will do everything we can to make sure they can see it legislatively, through the court system, through the subpoena process, we...

They can make that argument? >> there's really more allure to executive privilege than law and it's more of a political struggle than an actual legal struggle. it's very remote for these to get their way to courtroom, so what you have are really two bargaining bodies and they claim it. they may try to justify the claim. but there's little that congress can do when the president really clamps down other than try to put political pressure on. the subpoena process is slow and cumbersome. so it if goes to that, that's why they may figure they may need lawyers. they're going to deny a lot of stuff ...

But there's little that congress can do when the president really clamps down other than try to put political pressure on. the subpoena process is slow and cumbersome. so it if goes to that, that's why they may figure they need lawyers. they're going to deny a lot of stuff from the house and they'll be fighting a number of subpoenas. >> ultimately, this is likely to wind up in court. you know, whether, you have two issues. the investigations generally of the white house. and whether witnesses will be allowed to testify and documents will be produced, and then you have the mueller report itself...