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Off ramp that works best for him. saves face with the base. that's what this is about. as you reported and others have, this whole wall thing was a thing to help him talk about immigration. it was nothing based on substance policy or a real emergency at the border. >> what do you make of republican defectors? pelosi is going to try to put more pressure on senate republicans by saying let's reopen this agency and that agency forcing senate republicans to knock that down. >> sure. >> yet, you're going to have some house republicans that say well, i'm going to vote for this. >> i think you're goi...

bit. of course, newt gingrich at the presidential debates and the rivals, they exchanged jabs, engineer jeers and some jokes last night. even though there had been 723 presidential debates you always get something out of these things. maybe the line of the night. listen to who rick perry decided to compare himself to. >> there are a lot of people out there, i understand it. a lot of folks who said tim tebow wasn't going to be a very good nfl quarterback and people stood up and said, well, he doesn't have the right throwing mechanisms or he's not playing the game right. and, you know,...