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Backing off the success ter cuts over, sequester cuts, $10 billion in cuts just to the pentagon, that's part of the deal. a 2 billion next year. are you someone who is of the mind set that the pentagon also has to take a hair cut? a lot of people on capitol hill say they don't want to go near any pentagon cuts next year? >> wrapping yourself in the flag gets kind of old sometimes. and, yes, the pentagon has to do its part. but, the problem isn't just the pentagon. the problem, laura, is congress. eisenhower and his drafting of his famous speech talked about the defense industrial congressional...

Got to pass this treaty in order to know what's in it. >> oh. no well, here -- we have 2276 i believe that's the number as of today men and women who have been killed in afghanistan. >> for what? >> people that you have met, i have met. i was just with a triple amputee a couple weeks ago big benefit 23 years old. what do we get out of this. >> we are in afghanistan still because of inertia on the part of the military and because of obama's ego. he won't admit it's gone down the tubes. by the way, you know, earlier this week, 150 year anniversary of abraham lincoln saying a new birth of tree do...

You were out of line. >> bill: he wasn't out of line. i was maybe out of line with my tone but not with the facts of the matter you're a consumer reporter. has president obama put forth one solid cut on anything. >> no. he said he would and he hasn't. >> and the truth is on my side. >> success ter cuts aren't even cuts. spend something going up. >> bill: truth is going up. it's just that i probably didn't frame it with colmes. >> you were obnoxious. [ laughter ] >> bill: really? >> yeah. >> bill: you think so? you think it was too much? >> yeah. >> bill: all right. i will accept that. >> use i...

>> bill: he wasn't out of line. i was maybe out of line with my tone but not with the facts of the matter you're a consumer reporter. has president obama put forth one solid cut on anything. >> no. he said he would and he hasn't. >> and the truth is on my side. >> success ter cuts aren't even cuts. spend something going up. >> bill: truth is going up. it's just that i probably didn't frame it with colmes. >> you were obnoxious. [ laughter ] >> bill: really? >> yeah. >> bill: you think so? you think it was too much? >> yeah. >> bill: all right. i will accept that. >> use it up on colmes. [ laug...