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And he ak accepted president putin's assurances that the russians haven't been involved. i think he was playing really a sucker game with respect to putin. it just gave putin another chance to deny it. >> i'm thinking about the complexity. there we have lavrov, the foreign minister. it includes kislyak, the ambassador to the u.s., who has been in all these meetings with jared kushner and michael flynn. very much right in the middle, his ministry is involved. putin directs everything in russia. he knows everything that trump may have done in colluding with the russian efforts. and it is all the...

Agencies have said that it did happen. and he semied president putin's assurances that the russians haven't been involved. i think he was playing really a sucker game with respect to putin. it just gave putin another chance to deny it. >> i'm thinking about the complexity. there we have lavrov, the foreign minister. it includes kislyak, the ambassador to the u.s., who has been in all these meetings with jared kushner and michael flynn. he knows everything that trump may have done in colluding with the russian efforts. and it is all there. we're asking the president of the united states to ask ...

>> it's a sucker game. it's a sucker game. >> it's not a sucker game. it's that this system is not working because -- >> because obama -- >> you don't have anybody trying to make it better is what i'm saying. >> -- blame obama care on the republicans. >> i'm not doing that. >> when obamacare was doing well, hillary went around saying it's really hillary care. >> but i'm not doing that. i think this is a problem with this dialogue -- >> 100%. >> you have not heard me blame the republicans -- >> yes, you did. >> for obamacare. >> because -- >> you heard me say that the democrats forced the aca d...