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Event they make arrests of co-conspirators. what i can tell you -- and i've encountered that as a prosecutor -- what ordinarily will happen is the civil proceedings will be stayed. they'll be paused while the criminal proceedings move forward, and at the conclusion of the criminal proceedings, that's when the civil cases will move forward. so i would expect there's going to be a lot to sort out and a lot of litigants involved, but that's the likely path these two cases will take. >> how do you think the barr justice department has handled this? >> well, bill barr jumped out and announced what ...

Paralytic drugs in particular, in his body. we need to see the dna testing from underneath epstein's fin r fingernails to see if he had perhaps been involved in a struggle, scraped his fingernails and dna was transferred underneath his fingernails. i can't tell you how many times i've had that as a prosecutor. there is no more probative evidence of an assailant than having the dna of the assailant under his fingernails. there are more questions than answers, and the medical examiner's summary conclusion does nothing yet to my satisfaction. >> to your point, glenn, epstein's lawyers have also s...

Question, ayman, is no. that part of this sad episode should not be viewed as closed. why do i say that? the medical examiner for new york city, barbara sampson, i'm sure is a fine forensic pathologist, but what she has just offered the american people is a summary conclusion. she has ruled that the cause of death was hanging and that the manner of death was suicide. that's a summary conclusion just like bill barr gave us a summary conclusion of the mueller report which said no obstruction, no collusion, which was untrue. i'm not impuning the integrity of the chief medical examiner from new yo...

Manual strangulation than it is with a suicide hanging. now, it's not completely inconsistent with a suicide hanging, particularly a hanging where there has been some velocity involved. but this was a low-velocity hanging because of the nature of setting, in a cell where gravity has to do the work. i've dealt with multiple manual strangulation cases, and, you know, i want to see the toxicology report. i want to see the results of dna testing from underneath jeffrey epstein's fingernail scrapings to see if he perhaps scratched somebody and transferred dna under his fingernails. we need transpar...

>> how do you think the barr justice department has handled this? >> well, bill barr jumped out and announced what seemed a bit premature, that this was a suicide. now, we have a ruling. we have a summary conclusion in essence from dr. barbara sampson, who is the chief medical examiner for the city of new york. and, you know, i hope she'll forgive me, but i'm a little bit skeptical when i hear a government official giving us a summary conclusion. her conclusion, as has been reported out today, is that the cause of death was hanging, and the manner of death was suicide. it's all well and good t...